panchito
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what would they need more land for anyways jfl
like the people that outnumber israelis themselves are gonna assimilate to their new jew masters and be good goyim overnight
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like the people that outnumber israelis themselves are gonna assimilate to their new jew masters and be good goyim overnight
1Based Frog1
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How will Israel manage to conquer all that without consequences from global superpowers? Surely it would cause an outrage prompting retaliation from multiple nations at least.
That's part of the reason why I think we're heading into a world war.
Israel won’t launch an attack first. I can see a false flag being used to trick the world into perceiving Turkey as a threat to international security. Granting both America and Israel the right to takeover and restore “world peace.”
Cortex
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Is this a common sentiment among Turks right now?
The president stated it himself. And it's in mainstream news. So yes, about 70% of the country is more or less aware of this and shares the sentiment. Only leftoid types who simp for the west defend israel and call this a conspiracy theory or whatever.
A guy in the parliament was going on a rant about how we are not doing enough and that we are "failing at being Muslims". He said that we do everything against Israel other than what really counts. We condemn them, we shit talk about them, and yet in the same breath we continue our trade with them. Then he goes on to say that what is necessary now is a jihad. Unless we unite together and attack with all our might, God will not change His judgement of us and we will lose our country. Keep in mind that the guy saying this is a member of the most radical islamist party in Turkey (New Welfare Party) so his "jihad" ideas are not shared among most of the population. If his kind were the majority then Israel wouldn't be so bold against Turkey anyway. Sad state of affairs.
Cortex
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I read that Erdocuck told the world that he will send his military to fight Israel if they invade Lebanon yet he didn't do shit.
african volunteer
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I wouldn't live there
That's why the Islamist party I mentioned exists. It was created in I think 2018. It's been known for a while that Erdoğan is all talk but he doesn't actually do anything meaningful. So it's basically the party of those conservatives who got fed up with his shit. At least they're rising fast but we don't have the luxury of waiting for years. We need a far right government and we need it now. I voted for them too last time since every other choice sucks.
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As long as Turkey stays with NATO, I can’t imagine this ever being a possibility. The powers that be won’t allow it.
Erdoğan will most likely attend the BRICS summit on october 22-24, he was invited there by Putin.
Putin expects Erdoğan to attend BRICS summit next month
Russian President Vladimir Putin said he expects Türkiye's President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan at the BRICS summit next month.'In October we will see...
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I thought you meant, like, the animal/food. Because thanksgiving is coming up. Teehee
Uhh, I don't mind the Turks. They are extremely aggressive towards everyone but their air of superiority is somewhat fair. They were successful conquerors and administrators. They are also fairly intelligent, having an average IQ that would not be out of place in Europe. National IQ stats for Turkey are brought down by Kurds and Arabs.
I still support the Greeks in conflicts between the two groups, although I think that asking for Constantinople is very unrealistic. The city of Istanbul has more Turks in it than there exist Greeks in the entire country of Greece, and much of the city was developed by the Turks. I would support something more moderate like if Greeks were given back Ionia, which in my opinion is more authentically Greek territory anyways. The Achaeans settled here directly following the fall of Troy, meanwhile Byzantium was a later Dorian colony.
I understand why Armenians are such a thorn in the side of the Turks, as without them there would be a direct line from Constantinople to the Caspian, and across from there to the rest of the Turkic world. This should not be considered an endorsement of Azerbaijan, by the way... Azerbaijanis identify enough with their Turkic language to be a non-issue for Turkey, but they are not real Turks. They are Iranians pretending to be Turks. Sort of like a Bizarro version of the Hazara of Afghanistan. I don't really like Armenia or Azerbaijan...
All of that being said, the Turks certainly have some barbaric ways about them. Namely, they have a pederastic strain. Do not go to rural Turkey if you are a handsome young man without any facial hair. This pederastic strain is worse than that of the Greeks. Yes, for a while the Greeks were engaged in pederasty, but it was manufactured later on in Greek history and not endemic to it, and it ceased to exist when Christianity arose. Meanwhile, the Turkic penchant for boys could not be effectively suppressed by Islam. Many Ottoman emperors were ehh, well they liked boys. Some were more chaste, but some were degens.
Turkish other stuff... I don't actually know what Turkish food is Turkish. I like Baklava, and Rice Pudding, but I don't know if this is actually Turkish or Greek or maybe Perso-Arabic. Never had Turkish coffee or Ice Cream. I would also like to try that bread they make in the Turkic countries of central Asia. And Ayran.
Uhh, I don't mind the Turks. They are extremely aggressive towards everyone but their air of superiority is somewhat fair. They were successful conquerors and administrators. They are also fairly intelligent, having an average IQ that would not be out of place in Europe. National IQ stats for Turkey are brought down by Kurds and Arabs.
I still support the Greeks in conflicts between the two groups, although I think that asking for Constantinople is very unrealistic. The city of Istanbul has more Turks in it than there exist Greeks in the entire country of Greece, and much of the city was developed by the Turks. I would support something more moderate like if Greeks were given back Ionia, which in my opinion is more authentically Greek territory anyways. The Achaeans settled here directly following the fall of Troy, meanwhile Byzantium was a later Dorian colony.
I understand why Armenians are such a thorn in the side of the Turks, as without them there would be a direct line from Constantinople to the Caspian, and across from there to the rest of the Turkic world. This should not be considered an endorsement of Azerbaijan, by the way... Azerbaijanis identify enough with their Turkic language to be a non-issue for Turkey, but they are not real Turks. They are Iranians pretending to be Turks. Sort of like a Bizarro version of the Hazara of Afghanistan. I don't really like Armenia or Azerbaijan...
All of that being said, the Turks certainly have some barbaric ways about them. Namely, they have a pederastic strain. Do not go to rural Turkey if you are a handsome young man without any facial hair. This pederastic strain is worse than that of the Greeks. Yes, for a while the Greeks were engaged in pederasty, but it was manufactured later on in Greek history and not endemic to it, and it ceased to exist when Christianity arose. Meanwhile, the Turkic penchant for boys could not be effectively suppressed by Islam. Many Ottoman emperors were ehh, well they liked boys. Some were more chaste, but some were degens.
Turkish other stuff... I don't actually know what Turkish food is Turkish. I like Baklava, and Rice Pudding, but I don't know if this is actually Turkish or Greek or maybe Perso-Arabic. Never had Turkish coffee or Ice Cream. I would also like to try that bread they make in the Turkic countries of central Asia. And Ayran.
Rural Turkey hardly even exists anymore nigga. All of us out here are living in urban hellholes like westerners. Plus pederasty was only really a thing among higher ups like the degenerate sultans you mentioned. It wasn't particularly widespread among the commoners.
panchito
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panchito
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turks having a pedophilic elite before it was cool..... 2060 superpooper
Pipe dream. Even Atatürk didn't approve of this whole pan-turkism/turanism thing. He thought the kind of nationalism we should promote should be about protecting the Anatolian Turks first and foremost. He's also recorded as saying that the idea of a pan-turkic state where the inhabitants are culturally under the rule of the anatolian Turks is a psyop invented by the british with the ultimate aim of destroying us all. Not sure what his reasoning was there since I didn't look into it too much, but he was a very smart man and I'm sure he knew something I don't. So yeah, I'll have to say no to that.restore tvran....Grey Wolves (organization) - Wikipedia
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It was because Ataturk was not in a position to promote Turanism. Turkey had just lost its empire and there were powers beyond it who would retaliate if it tried to expand
baqqrih
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I think that’s still the present case today, too.
No. You said this before and I think I didn't respond properly. Atatürk talks about this in a book he wrote and he makes it clear that he's against pan-turkism out of principle, ie he wouldn't do it even if he could. He was certainly in favor of more cooperation between Turkic countries, but he wasn't in favor of a unified Turan state.
Let me make something clear, Kemalism has never been an expansionist ideology. I don't know if they portray it that way in the west but it really isn't. Kemalism is only lumped together with Italian Fascism and Nazism because all three of them had the point of opposing the jewish menace which comes through western imperialism. But again, Atatürk was never expansionist like Mussolini or Hitler and he never promoted any racial supremacy, the guy's basis for foreign policy was "peace in the country, peace in the world" for Christ's sake. Kemalism wasn't defensive just because the situation called for it, it's fundamentally defensive and doesn't seek to make war except in the face of aggression, for example when Atatürk learned that the idea of establishing a jewish state in the middle east was in the works, he made it clear that he'd go to war to prevent this if he had to.
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This is the first time I’ve heard the term “Kemalism.” Based off my history classes we mainly learn about the horrors of Mussolini and Hitler. Turkey hasn’t ever been in our curriculum.
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