Why was Tartaria erased from history?

1Based Frog1

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The Kingdom of Tartaria allegedly spanned much of modern-day Russia, Central Asia, and even parts of Europe and North America, yet we’re told it’s just a mythical place on old maps. Ever seen the "World’s Fairs" of the late 19th and early 20th centuries? Those massive structures that they supposedly built in months, just to tear them down after? Tartarian-style buildings are scattered across the world, but we're told they’re just “Victorian” or “Renaissance” designs.

This brings me to the mudflood theory, which ties into Tartaria. The claim is that a massive cataclysm, possibly as recent as the 1800s, buried much of this civilization. You see buildings with windows and doors partially underground, like they were hastily dug out or built over. Why? Because a global empire like Tartaria, with advanced techno culture, would threaten the centralized power of empires and bankers in the 19th century. The fact that even questioning Tartaria's existence gets you labeled as a conspiracy nut tells me there’s some legitimacy to this myth.
 
If it were a myth, then there wouldn’t be dozens of old maps charting the empire.

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This brings me to the mudflood theory, which ties into Tartaria. The claim is that a massive cataclysm, possibly as recent as the 1800s, buried much of this civilization. You see buildings with windows and doors partially underground, like they were hastily dug out or built over. Why? Because a global empire like Tartaria, with advanced techno culture, would threaten the centralized power of empires and bankers in the 19th century. The fact that even questioning Tartaria's existence gets you labeled as a conspiracy nut tells me there’s some legitimacy to this myth.
How advanced do you think Tartaria was, if it existed? Also there are many buildings not in Tartaria that are buried into the ground so I don't see why Tartaria would be the one most affected to the point of collapse
 
How advanced do you think Tartaria was, if it existed?
There’s evidence that suggests they mastered technologies we can’t even replicate today, possibly even free energy systems that would render our modern dependence on oil and centralized power obsolete.
Also there are many buildings not in Tartaria that are buried into the ground so I don't see why Tartaria would be the one most affected to the point of collapse
The mudflood theory doesn’t necessarily mean Tartaria was the only civilization affected. It could’ve been a global catastrophe, with Tartaria as one of the most affected victims.
Falsenuke, All Tartar land in 18th century was already claimed by numerous countries such as Russia, China, Korea and various central asian khanates
That’s the mainstream take, but it assumes that the official maps and records from the 18th century are both accurate and honest. If Tartaria was wiped out or weakened its lands would’ve been easy pickings for neighboring powers. It’s not like Russia or China would’ve documented the fall of a rival empire they wanted to overpower.
 
That’s the mainstream take, but it assumes that the official maps and records from the 18th century are both accurate and honest.
If history and maps according to the civilizations which occupied the lands of "Tartaria" are not accurate, why would Europeans recording maps of civilizations they knew next to nothing about (Tartaria's "borders" were just an amalgamation of every Turkic Empire) be accurate? There are actual 18th century maps of Russia and China which don't have any Tartaria
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If history and maps according to the civilizations which occupied the lands of "Tartaria" are not accurate, why would Europeans recording maps of civilizations they knew next to nothing about (Tartaria's "borders" were just an amalgamation of every Turkic Empire) be accurate? There are actual 18th century maps of Russia and China which don't have any Tartaria
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Why would we trust their accounts any more than the Europeans? Both of those empires had every incentive to rewrite history and erase Tartaria from history. If Tartaria was a rival power or even a loose confederation of states, they’d bury that history under the guise of "civilizing" or absorbing the land.
 
They literally documented fall of the Mongols and others
If Tartaria posed a threat to their narrative, it would’ve been downplayed, folded into the Mongols, or erased entirely. It's possible Tartaria predated or overlapped with the Mongols, and got swept under the rug when it didn’t fit the convenient fallen empire story.
 
I found this map in the Junglas of Chudericho once.
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Strange things happen if you click it... also had to resize this image 15x because of admin's Happy Meal Hosting plan...

But yeah it's wild how the Great Wall of China defends against China and protects that territory of Tartaria. Almost like the Chinese didn't build it... seems backwards. But what do I know... if I was building a defensive wall I'd build it like the Chinese did, ya know, to keep out the invaders.
 
Why is Antartica at the bottom. It's clearly an ice wall surrounding the entire realm..
If they directly labeled it, then the Jesuits would have the maker of this map locked up in no time, but if you look closely at the picture's edges, you'll see a section of white surrounding the entire map. It isn't just some plain background. This cartographer was trying to show us the actual ice wall.
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