Forgotten scripture - The Lost Books of the Apocrypha

[Seraphim]

I’ve been doing some reading on the so-called "lost books" of the Apocrypha. Texts that didn’t make it into the canon but still offer insight into early Christian thought. Some were widely read in the early church, while others were considered dubious or even heretical. The Orthodox and Catholic traditions include some Apocryphal books in their canon, while Protestantism largely rejects them. But even Martin Luther found some value in books like Sirach.

The 14 books were:

• Tobit
• Judith
• Baruch
• 1 & 2 Esdras
• 1 & 2 Maccabees
• Wisdom of Solomon
• Prayer of Manasseh
• Ecclesiasticus (Sirach)

Have any of you studied these texts? I'm curious as to why they were removed from the Bible in 1684.

 

[Weebhunter3000]

I'm curious as to why they were removed from the Bible in 1684.

My guess is it contradicted with the teachings of the Church at that time. It’s hard to find a concrete answer because Christians go “it was God’s decision to remove those books” and never assume a person with nefarious intentions would tamper with the Bible.

 

[SiegeChud]

My Protestant minister using them but sees them as inferior to say Mathew Mark and Luke (because they are)


There helpful for study but not essential to scripture

 

[SiegeChud]

My guess is it contradicted with the teachings of the Church at that time. It’s hard to find a concrete answer because Christians go “it was God’s decision to remove those books” and never assume a person with nefarious intentions would tamper with the Bible.

It was debated if they where needed or not and some bibles used them while others did not and people just kinda collectively agreed to not use them in that time it was mostly a push from prots

 

[Negrobud]

They didn't make it into the canon because they didn't align with the church's agenda to control the narrative. Their goal was to create a Bible that was easy to digest, easy to control, not one filled with complex shit that might make people question the church's authority. It's all about keeping the flock in line, dumbing down the narrative so there's less room for interpretation or rebellion.

 

[THE TRUE DIGLET]

Forgotten scripture - My Twisted World, By Elliot Rodger​

 

[BLACK HAWK]

yeah i watched it its an anime about a feminine boy and an ancient resurrection of Jeane Pierre happens to become his personal toilet
and french reincarnation of astolfo a famous servant that no normie knows about apochyra was good but i was only watching because my pc was broken and i had to use laptop or so i tell myself anyway.

 

[panchito]

yeah i watched it its an anime about a feminine boy and an ancient resurrection of Jeane Pierre happens to become his personal toilet
and french reincarnation of astolfo a famous servant that no normie knows about apochyra was good but i was only watching because my pc was broken and i had to use laptop or so i tell myself anyway.

completely unrelated whatsoever

 

[SiegeChud]

Book of Tobit

 

[panchito]

Book of Tobit
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i'd like the specific verse please if you can tell what it is

 

[Dremora]

i'd like the specific verse please if you can tell what it is

Tobit 4:12.

 

[Swede Immigrant]

Book of Tobit
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So that’s why these books were taken out of the bible.

 

[James]

The Trinity did not want His people to mix with strange women because of their religious background, not their racial background. If strange women converted to Christianity, the Israelites would accept them as Israelites.

 

[panchito]

The Trinity did not want His people to mix with strange women because of their religious background, not their racial background. If strange women converted to Christianity, the Israelites would accept them as Israelites.

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where's the part where it specifies religion and not race

 

[Haswell]

yeah i watched it its an anime about a feminine boy and an ancient resurrection of Jeane Pierre happens to become his personal toilet
and french reincarnation of astolfo a famous servant that no normie knows about apochyra was good but i was only watching because my pc was broken and i had to use laptop or so i tell myself anyway.

So it aligns with Catholic values, gotcha

 

[Anon_Humor]

I have the book of Enoch in my possession. My grandfather who’s a pastor has several apocryphal books to study on.

 

[James]

where's the part where it specifies religion and not race

The last image.

Rahab was a non-Israelite. Ruth was a non-Israelite. Both Rahab and Ruth were direct ancestors of King David. Both Rahab and Ruth were direct ancestors of the Son.

 

[James]

I have the book of Enoch in my possession. My grandfather who’s a pastor has several apocryphal books to study on.

I have the Ethiopian Bible in my possession.

 

[Harlequin]

They didn't make it into the canon because they didn't align with the church's agenda to control the narrative. Their goal was to create a Bible that was easy to digest, easy to control, not one filled with complex shit that might make people question the church's authority. It's all about keeping the flock in line, dumbing down the narrative so there's less room for interpretation or rebellion.

The flock is retarded, so it's probably good that the church did that

 

[Anon_Humor]

I have the Ethiopian Bible in my possession.

That version of the Bible is actually one of if not the most Un-edited bibles in the world. It also has a lot of books normal bibles don’t have. How’d you get your hands on one?

 

[Anon_Humor]

The flock is retarded, so it's probably good that the church did that

>Withdrawling and gate-keeping information and knowledge from the masses in an attempt to only keep the elites educated…. Le good!
Are you vaccinated? Sure, I don’t like society either. But, It’d be best to inform them to perhaps potentially awaken them.

 

[Harlequin]

The last image.

Rahab was a non-Israelite. Ruth was a non-Israelite. Both Rahab and Ruth were direct ancestors of King David. Both Rahab and Ruth were direct ancestors of the Son.

Esdras seems to be quite sure that any sort of mass mixing event would result in the end of the Israelites. The odd convert every so often isn't the same thing

 

[James]

How’d you get your hands on one?

There was a copy at Half Price Books.

Esdras seems to be quite sure that any sort of mass mixing event would result in the end of the Israelites. The odd convert every so often isn't the same thing

No, whenever the Holy Scriptures mention why the Israelites should not marry strange women, it is because of their idol worship, not their race.

 

[Anon_Humor]

There was a copy at Half Price Books.

No, whenever the Holy Scriptures mention why the Israelites should not marry strange women, it is because of their idol worship, not their race.

Thanks for telling me.

 

[Harlequin]

There was a copy at Half Price Books.

No, whenever the Holy Scriptures mention why the Israelites should not marry strange women, it is because of their idol worship, not their race.

You can convert them, right?