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German women wearing traditional folk costumes during the 1935 Erntedankfest. Holding Yule (Pagan) wreaths

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Image from the annual Erntedankfest harvest festival during the Third Reich. Picture depicts variant of the Swastika along with the (Pagan) Sun cross symbol.

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Altar and dedication stones (boulders) on the Landtag square in Hösseringen near Suderburg on the Lüneburg Heath. On the altar is written: "In the service of the German people, I exhaust my strength." At the bottom of the altar are two Germanic odal runes, meaning: Inherited possession, ancestral possession. On the rock behind is a swastika, inscribed: "Liberated by Adolf Hitler, the free German peasantry meets here again in 1936". The photos was taken on the occasion of the inauguration of the Landtag square by the National Socialists on June 28, 1936.
 
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how do i shoot you a pm though
i am also in a channel where they post rwre ns pictures and there are some very interesting ones
 
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Lure players, 1935. Four SS men play on the 'lure', a Germanic wood wind instrument, which has been rebuilt

GERMANIC SS playing the Lur Horn which comes from the Bronze age period of ancient Germanic history.

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1935 at the market place in Lubeck , SS-Men blow the 'Lure' a bugle horn, which were made in the style of old German tradition
 
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Nothing like a good old fashion Catholic book / bible burning, except this time, by the Nazi pagan androgyne lovers:
 
The following are the letters between the Turkish leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and Adolf Hitler during Atatürk's time as president of Turkey (1923-38). It is well known that Hitler admired Atatürk and even called him the most significant figure of the century. Atatürk never really cared about Hitler much albeit. Still, there were letters and they are not well known, so I took the time to translate them and dump them here.

Here are the Hitler-Atatürk messages from Bilal N. Şimşir's book "Atatürk ve Yabancı Devlet Adamları I" (TTK, 1993, p. 149-178; some words have been simplified).

Atatürk was the first to send the direct message: "I am honored to offer my most sincere congratulations on your election to the highest office of the German State. I kindly request you to accept my very high regards." (21 August 1934)

He writes that 5 days later, Berlin Ambassador Hamdi Arpağ visited Hitler and that the Führer was very grateful for Atatürk's congratulations message and expressed his thanks. On August 30, Hitler thanked him with a written message.

Then comes the reply to Hitler from Atatürk, who congratulated the Republic Day: "I kindly request you to accept my most warm thanks and wishes for your personal happiness and the prosperity of Germany." (November 2, 1934).

This time it was Hitler who wrote on November 23: "It will be my serious endeavor to improve and advance the relations between our countries."

On March 4, 1935, Hitler congratulated Atatürk on his re-election as President. The next day, a thank you comes from Atatürk. On April 2, we see a new message from Atatürk. Hitler states that he united the Reich Presidency and the Reich Chancellery with a law and that he took power by complying with this law. Atatürk, on the other hand, felt "great joy" from this: "Your Excellency, while I congratulate you on your country's accession to the highest rank, I will not forget the confidence that you want the happy bonds of friendship between our countries to be preserved and strengthened." (This part sounds ESL even in Turkish because it uses archaic words, I can't really translate it too well.)

There are more letters, but most of them are just like the ones above with the two sides saying thank you to each other over trivial shit. So I'll just skip to the last and most significant one.

Following the death of Atatürk on 10 November 1938, Hitler sent a condolence message to the Speaker of the Parliament, Abdülhalik Renda. Here is that message: "On behalf of myself and the German people, I would like to express my deep sorrow to the Speaker of the Turkish Grand National Assembly and to all the Turkish people for the death of Atatürk. We have lost a great soldier, an excellent statesman and a historical personality. He left his mark on the establishment of the new Turkish "Reich". Turkey's existence will live on for generations to come."

I know these are not all that interesting. I just thought it was kinda funny how Hitler refers to Turkey as the new reich. It is also funny and ironic how today's neo nazis hate Turkey for being le roach land or whatever while Hitler very clearly admired the country and even took inspiration from it.

I'll find and post more interesting stuff later.
 
The following are the letters between the Turkish leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and Adolf Hitler during Atatürk's time as president of Turkey (1923-38). It is well known that Hitler admired Atatürk and even called him the most significant figure of the century. Atatürk never really cared about Hitler much albeit. Still, there were letters and they are not well known, so I took the time to translate them and dump them here.

Here are the Hitler-Atatürk messages from Bilal N. Şimşir's book "Atatürk ve Yabancı Devlet Adamları I" (TTK, 1993, p. 149-178; some words have been simplified).

Atatürk was the first to send the direct message: "I am honored to offer my most sincere congratulations on your election to the highest office of the German State. I kindly request you to accept my very high regards." (21 August 1934)

He writes that 5 days later, Berlin Ambassador Hamdi Arpağ visited Hitler and that the Führer was very grateful for Atatürk's congratulations message and expressed his thanks. On August 30, Hitler thanked him with a written message.

Then comes the reply to Hitler from Atatürk, who congratulated the Republic Day: "I kindly request you to accept my most warm thanks and wishes for your personal happiness and the prosperity of Germany." (November 2, 1934).

This time it was Hitler who wrote on November 23: "It will be my serious endeavor to improve and advance the relations between our countries."

On March 4, 1935, Hitler congratulated Atatürk on his re-election as President. The next day, a thank you comes from Atatürk. On April 2, we see a new message from Atatürk. Hitler states that he united the Reich Presidency and the Reich Chancellery with a law and that he took power by complying with this law. Atatürk, on the other hand, felt "great joy" from this: "Your Excellency, while I congratulate you on your country's accession to the highest rank, I will not forget the confidence that you want the happy bonds of friendship between our countries to be preserved and strengthened." (This part sounds ESL even in Turkish because it uses archaic words, I can't really translate it too well.)

There are more letters, but most of them are just like the ones above with the two sides saying thank you to each other over trivial shit. So I'll just skip to the last and most significant one.

Following the death of Atatürk on 10 November 1938, Hitler sent a condolence message to the Speaker of the Parliament, Abdülhalik Renda. Here is that message: "On behalf of myself and the German people, I would like to express my deep sorrow to the Speaker of the Turkish Grand National Assembly and to all the Turkish people for the death of Atatürk. We have lost a great soldier, an excellent statesman and a historical personality. He left his mark on the establishment of the new Turkish "Reich". Turkey's existence will live on for generations to come."

I know these are not all that interesting. I just thought it was kinda funny how Hitler refers to Turkey as the new reich. It is also funny and ironic how today's neo nazis hate Turkey for being le roach land or whatever while Hitler very clearly admired the country and even took inspiration from it.

I'll find and post more interesting stuff later.
Kino. You’re doing God’s work. Historical documents from foreign countries are rarely translated for the English world which is a shame. Everyone should know history exactly as it happened.
 
I know these are not all that interesting. I just thought it was kinda funny how Hitler refers to Turkey as the new reich. It is also funny and ironic how today's neo nazis hate Turkey for being le roach land or whatever while Hitler very clearly admired the country and even took inspiration from it.
There was even jews in germany who were classed as honorary aryans
 
Tbh I have no idea why. I should look into it one of these days but I’m a lazy fuck.
If what you're wondering is why Hitler admired Turkey and Atatürk, I know why. I guess this explanation would fit the theme of the thread too so I might aswell go ahead and do it. Prepare for a very long but interesting post.

One major reason for Hitler taking inspiration from Atatürk is because Atatürk was a man who saved his nation from the brink of being colonized and destroyed by wicked western nations like England, France, Italy etc. The Ottomans were dealt a heavy blow with WW1 in the exact same way the Germans were. The treaty of Sevres was the Ottoman equivalent of the Treaty of Versailles for Germany.
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This is what the Ottoman Empire would look like if the Treaty of Sevres was put into effect. And on top of this huge amount of land loss, there were harsh terms on the treaty. For example;

"Military Issues (articles 152-207): The military force of the Ottoman Empire would be limited to 50,700 people, 35,000 of whom were gendarmerie, 15,000 of whom were special units, and 700 of whom were the security forces of the sultan, and they would not have heavy weapons. The Turkish navy would be liquidated, There will be no military facilities in the Marmara Region, military service will be voluntary and paid, minorities will be able to join the army, the army and gendarmerie will be inspected by the Allied Control Commission."

So basically, this was a humiliation ritual for the Ottomans just as the Treaty of Versailles was a humiliation ritual for Germany. But then the Turks rebelled with the Turkish National Movement and defeated the invaders at all fronts, both east and west during the Turkish War of Independence. They were all lead by one man, that is Atatürk who would then go on to be the first president of Turkey. The Treaty of Sevres was ditched in favor of the Treaty of Lausanne which defined the modern borders of Turkey. Atatürk then abolished the caliphate and established the modern republic of Turkey, enacting hundreds of reforms from the west with the purpose of challenging the west. In essence using their own strategies and strengths against them.

So.. where does Hitler come into this? He comes into all of this because Hitler was a well-read man, he knew history pretty well. Far better than his modern larping faggot followers do. And he admired Turkey precisely because the establishment of Turkey was the story of how a nation so oppressed and subjugated rebelled against their soon to be colonial masters and repelled them all. This story was the kind of story Hitler wanted to re-create in Germany. And this wasn't something only Hitler felt at all. The common German of the time might also read about this story in his local newspaper and admire the Turks for what they have achieved.

"German newspapers covered the Versailles Peace Treaty signed in Paris on June 29, 1919, which resulted in the loss of territory and the obligation to pay a huge compensation. Just two days later, in the words of the Daily Beast, 'a love story with Mustafa Kemal Pasha (Atatürk) began. News about Türkiye, Atatürk and the War of Independence rose to the newspaper headlines."

German discourses on Turkey from 1919 to 1945 were in many respects the logical continuation of each other; The language of the nationalist press, which started during the Turkish War of Independence, began to bear full fruit during the Nazi rule. This situation made Turkey non-eastern and caused old clichés to be re-evaluated. Although Kemalism and Kemalist Turkey were perceived as new and revolutionary all over Europe, nowhere were they embraced and 'twinned' as much as in Germany. In this respect, the vision of New Türkiye served as a vision of Nazism's own modernity.

For example, when Hitler received a delegation of Turkish politicians and journalists who came to celebrate his birthday in 1939, he said, “Atatürk was the first to show that it was possible to mobilize and revitalize the resources a country had lost. In this respect, Atatürk was a teacher; Mussolini was his first student and I was his second student."

Another example goes that while Hitler was tearing up the Versailles Treaty, he said, "We can now do what Atatürk did 10 years ago." referring to Sevres. This saying is famous.

Atatürk on the other hand did have a few brief words to say about Hitler and what he was doing in Germany at the time. In fact, according to Kemal Arıburnu's 1969 book "Memories from Atatürk", Atatürk was said to have these thoughts about Hitler.

"Atatürk did not believe that Hitler could achieve real success and said that his constant raising of new problems would lead him to destruction one day. However, he found it natural that he wanted to eliminate the restrictive provisions of the Treaty of Versailles and to unite Austria with Germany. The same nation spoke the same language in both countries and they had a common life when Vienna was the capital of the Germanic Empire. When the issue of the future of the Germans living on the borders of Czechoslovakia, called Sudeten, arose, Atatürk was very ill and the old table was not set, so I did not have the opportunity to learn his thoughts on this subject.

Atatürk saw that Hitler's attitude brought the General War (a new world war) closer. However, the main steps on that path, namely Germany's seizure of Czechoslovakia and Italy's seizure of Albania, took place after his death."

Now you know why the Nazis admired Turkey as much as they did. Turkey accomplished what they wanted to do but couldn't accomplish. That being said there were major differences in how Germany sought to do this vs how Turkey did this. I believe these differences are key to understanding why the Germans failed while the Turks succeeded. Atatürk himself thought that Hitler was reckless and stupid as I already mentioned. I guess I can talk about this throughly in a follow up post if you're curious.
 
Sure, whenever you’re up to it, I’ll read it.
Honestly I had a lot of ideas in mind when I wrote that but I then realized most of them were rather subjective/my opinion rather than objective. But there's still two things I will say. First, Hitler's biggest mistake was without a shadow of doubt invading Russia. There's just about zero examples of any nations in history invading Russia and coming out truly victorious. They at best temporarily came out ahead, but in the long run we always see the Russians fighting off whoever might invade them, whether that be the Mongols or Germans or the Ottomans. And Atatürk also knew this very well, that's why a core part of his foreign policy was to have good relations with Soviet Russia at all costs. Mussolini also understood this, in fact there's one remark made by Mussolini where he states that only Atatürk and he understood how to deal with Russia, which is to have good relations with them but at the same time keep the country clear of communism on the inside. This remark comes from the same book I mentioned above, Memories from Atatürk, here's the translated text:

"While I was ambassador in Belgrade, there was an Italian ambassador there named General Bodrero. Due to Albania and various problems, the Fascist Government always appointed important people to Belgrade. Naturally, Bodrero was also from this party and had a lot of contact with Mussolini. One day, he told me these words of Mussolini about Atatürk:

“Only Mustafa Kemal and I understood the policy that should be pursued against Russia: to be friends with it in foreign policy and to crush the communists at home.”

When I told him this, Atatürk said, "It is true."

Looking at Mussolini's statements and words in general, he said, "These seem to have come from the mouth of a madman, but his behavior in foreign policy seems calculated, let's wait for what comes next." he would say. This conversation took place in 1928.
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And this was what Atatürk did, he had help from the Soviets in terms of supplies during the Turkish war of independence but he never allowed communism to actually take hold in the country. As a result Turkey never fell prey to either the military aggression of the Soviets nor did it ideologically get conquered. But Hitler didn't understand this. He chased after impossible dreams he had in his mind and thanks to this stupidity, he lost the war the moment he decided to make Russia his enemy. I think this situation is the exact same today actually with Ukraine and all, but that's a different topic entirely.

Second, Hitler wasn't as good a leader as Atatürk was. By this, I mean that he wasn't as competent in uniting his people under one banner. With Atatürk we see him trying to unite all Turks under a common cause regardless of what their ideology might be. Atatürk was very pragmatist in everything he did. He wasn't particularly religious, but whenever he dealt with religious groups he would intentionally act like he was the most devout Muslim in the world. There are photos of Atatürk from the 1920's praying with Muslims because he knew that no nation that's divided against itself can survive. So he did whatever he had to do for the sake of PR.
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He applied this same approach to others too, when he dealt with communists he would act as if he was sympathetic to their cause. He kept doing this with everyone until he was properly in power. But even then, he never actively antagonized religion. He just tried to nationalize Islam but that's about it. He brought adhans in Turkish language instead of Arabic and all that.

Hitler on the other hand did whatever he felt like doing. For example, his eugenics program was a total disaster as it earned him the hostility of Catholics and some Protestants in his country, if he didn't do that perhaps German Catholics would have been more loyal to him and maybe if he tried hard enough, he might have been able to even get the Vatican to be sympathetic to his cause. In general, actively going against a religion that's practiced by the majority of a nation is probably a bad idea and that's what Hitler did. Atatürk just wanted everyone to adhere to some core principles he laid out (the six arrows), while Hitler wanted to shape Germany to follow his ideas in everything. Obviously he had to deal with more opposition than Atatürk due to this.
 
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