History Old Believers

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The free christians, most of them don't care about some literal who government pursuing with shit.
Old Believers appeared after 1667 Russian Orthodox Church reform, they did not agree with reform because they believed it does not look traditional to orthodoxy, the authorities seethed at them so much they executed them with fire. They were persecuted by Tsar's authorities so they decided to live a cowboy lifestyle for a period of time. Most of them ran to unexplored Siberia, some went to European forests and some decided to settle in Alaska, west Canada. Old Believers can be found in a belt stretching from Romania to US.
The old believers are not just one church but a group of them, their churches divide into 2 types. Priested and Priestless. Priested are more traditional due their tradition of clergy consisting of priests who do many of the church tasks. Priestless reject any sort of priesthood and eucharist, they have churches but they don't have much more than liturgy, some of the priestless elect a brother to lead the prayer. Priestless old believers believe that marriage can be done without a priest but a minority of them reject it completely.
A lot of them are fine but some of them are pretty weird, there has been some phenomenon of certain old believer groups considering doing suicides. Well atleast those groups do not exist anymore.
 
What’s the belief differences between Orthodoxy and Old Believers, exactly?
Old believers reject reforms made by patriarch Nikon, priested old believers only keep their traditions while priestless look much more different
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I stopped by an Old Believers church, the only one in the East coast I believe, while on my mission last winter. It was on the coast and rather scenic. They have lots more icons, and follow a more Slavic connotation of the language used in hymns and gospel, that's all I picked up in differences. All in all, I definitely respect it.

However, I'll stick with my current affiliation. I trust the leaders of the place where Eastern teaching originated(back when they were REAL Orthodox Christians) more than my homeland in this case.
 
What’s the belief differences between Orthodoxy and Old Believers, exactly?
Old Believers don’t differ in core theology, they affirm the Nicene Creed, the sacraments, and the essential tenets of Christianity. The main difference separating them from Orthodoxy was that they viewed the reforms brought forth by the Tsars broke continuity with what they saw as the pure faith handed down from the Apostles.
 
Old Believers don’t differ in core theology, they affirm the Nicene Creed, the sacraments, and the essential tenets of Christianity. The main difference separating them from Orthodoxy was that they viewed the reforms brought forth by the Tsars broke continuity with what they saw as the pure faith handed down from the Apostles.
Doesn’t sound like something worth risking your life over tbh. They could’ve pretended to follow the changes.
 
Three things:

1. Old believers have a tradition of burning themselves alive just to avoid the reforms. They see this as martyrdom but it's suicide; murder.

2. They hated Greek influence but didn't mind Catholic influence for some reason, curious.

3. The Russian church allowed them to keep their old rites and return to the church and yet most of them still refused to do so, it's just pride at that point:

From these three points alone, you can tell what exactly is wrong with the old believers.
 
Three things:

1. Old believers have a tradition of burning themselves alive just to avoid the reforms. They see this as martyrdom but it's suicide; murder.

2. They hated Greek influence but didn't mind Catholic influence for some reason, curious.

3. The Russian church allowed them to keep their old rites and return to the church and yet most of them still refused to do so, it's just pride at that point:

From these three points alone, you can tell what exactly is wrong with the old believers.
Lol

>When asked many years later why he had become a Catholic, Fr. Potapy responded, "The basic principle of my soul is not to oppose itself to the truth."
 
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