Magic Squares

[Harlequin]

In mathematics, especially historical and recreational mathematics, a square array of numbers, usually positive integers, is called a magic square if the sums of the numbers in each row, each column, and both main diagonals are the same. There is only one 3 by 3 magic square up to rotation, but henceforth the number of possible squares grows rapidly (880 for 4x4, 275305224 for 5x5, 17753889197660635632 for 6x6)

I am fairly learned in the mathematical arts, and once an Islamic Sufi friend of mine asked me if I knew anything about Magic Squares. In Islamic magic, magic squares were apparently constructed in magical spells, in conjunction with other things. He told me that he wanted to use magic squares so that he could frighten his enemies by magically rearranging their furniture while they slept.

 

[Seraphim]

Based off what I know about Sufis and Islamic mystics, it is said that if one can unlock their hidden patterns, you can access some deeper understanding of the universe.

The real difficulty, though, is that no matter how much you read about these texts or explore this field, you still can’t quite grasp how the original thinkers arrived at their understanding. You can’t fully understand why these patterns, like magic squares, hold the significance they do, or why certain numbers or orders are used.

 

[Swede Immigrant]

Found a good guide on how to perform the ritual.

 

[panchito]

He told me that he wanted to use magic squares so that he could frighten his enemies by magically rearranging their furniture while they slept.

based sandshit using magic math to spook and make people piss themselves at 2 am

 

[Itransheartblox]

based sandshit using magic math to spook and make people piss themselves at 2 am

>Sunni sufis now use magic math to spook shitees
They are now using their magic powers to get their revenge
We are cooked

 

[Harlequin]

Based off what I know about Sufis and Islamic mystics, it is said that if one can unlock their hidden patterns, you can access some deeper understanding of the universe.

The real difficulty, though, is that no matter how much you read about these texts or explore this field, you still can’t quite grasp how the original thinkers arrived at their understanding. You can’t fully understand why these patterns, like magic squares, hold the significance they do, or why certain numbers or orders are used.

Guenon says it doesn't matter. He says that even if you don't fully understand the ritual, its power is still achieved. I don't remember why

 

[baqqrih]

Guenon says it doesn't matter. He says that even if you don't fully understand the ritual, its power is still achieved. I don't remember why

Well, I'm not at-all an occultist myself, but I think I see the logic in why this would work, as long as the process isn't partially reliant on a deep understanding or some sort of spiritual power that one would have to develop through intense study in order to precisely conduct the ritual. Mr. Guenon might think of conducting these rituals like operating a piece of machinery.
An illiterate Chinaman on an assembly line pulling a lever to press two slabs of metal together doesn't know jack-squat about how the machine he's operating works on a technical level, nor may he even know where that metal object he's just pressed is going next, or, for that matter, what the final product could possibly be, but he does know how to pull that lever, and that's what makes the process happen.
What I'm thinking is that the same thing could be considered with these number squares from the desert wizards. I don't know how a ritual would be conducted on these things, but if it simply involves a process of "place this object on this part of the square, chant this gibberish, think about this location, and so on," then knowing why the funky numbers are on the squares would, indeed, as Guenon says, not matter.