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OdessanBvll

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Churches lead by popes, patriarchs and similar figures are all a larp, everybody is lying about who is the true one, if you really believe in Christ you gotta see yourself as part of HIS church not see yourself as part of the denomination. I grew up in orthodox environment but now i have realized what patriarchal church has done to destroy the faith, this church does not preach Bible, most priests are just trying to collect as much money as possible, most people who go to orthodox church only larp about being traditional while not thinking about the depth of which is the faith in Christ. Just like the pope the patriarchs engage in heretical "interfaith dialogues". The orthodox church was historically used by the state to brainwash people into becoming their "warriors" and that still happens, just look at modern russia and ukraine. The orthodox church has the pharisee mindset of that "if you don't do that tradition you won't be saved", i saw it many times and that disgusts me. I don't have to say anything about the catholic church cause the situation is similar and i already made a thread about them.
 
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Christ didn’t leave us a book alone, he left us a Church. One that would endure, despite the failures of men, despite wolves in robes and scandals in high places. The apostles ordained leaders, laid hands on bishops, guarded tradition, and passed down what they received. That doesn’t mean every priest is trustworthy, but it does mean we’re not meant to walk this road alone. Remember, we are called to discern, not to scatter into the distance. If you walk into a church and they're preaching with an ulterior motive, shake the dust off your shoes and move on.
 
Seraphim said:
Christ didn’t leave us a book alone, he left us a Church. One that would endure, despite the failures of men, despite wolves in robes and scandals in high places. The apostles ordained leaders, laid hands on bishops, guarded tradition, and passed down what they received. That doesn’t mean every priest is trustworthy, but it does mean we’re not meant to walk this road alone. Remember, we are called to discern, not to scatter into the distance. If you walk into a church and they're preaching with an ulterior motive, shake the dust off your shoes and move on.
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Seraphim said:
The apostles ordained leaders, laid hands on bishops, guarded tradition, and passed down what they received. That doesn’t mean every priest is trustworthy, but it does mean we’re not meant to walk this road alone.
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No, guarding man-made rituals and man-made traditions for centuries is heresy. The Trinity's word holds complete authority over the Church. The Church does not hold any authority over the Trinity's word. The Church is to be guided and corrected by the Trinity's word.
 
“Tradition = Pharisee” take is weak. Christ condemned empty tradition that ignored the heart of the law, not tradition itself. Paul literally commands us to “stand firm and hold the traditions you were taught” (2 Thess. 2:15). The Orthodox Church didn’t destroy faith. Weak men, corrupt leaders, and modernity did.
 
1Based Frog1 said:
Christ condemned empty tradition that ignored the heart of the law, not tradition itself. Paul literally commands us to “stand firm and hold the traditions you were taught” (2 Thess. 2:15). The Orthodox Church didn’t destroy faith.
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No, traditions are only acceptable if they align with the Word of the Trinity.
1Based Frog1 said:
Weak men, corrupt leaders, and modernity did.
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Yes, weak men who created traditions that did not align with the Word of the Trinity.
 
OdessanBvll said:
Churches lead by popes, patriarchs and similar figures are all a larp, everybody is lying about who is the true one, if you really believe in Christ you gotta see yourself as part of HIS church not see yourself as part of the denomination. I grew up in orthodox environment but now i have realized what patriarchal church has done to destroy the faith, this church does not preach Bible, most priests are just trying to collect as much money as possible, most people who go to orthodox church only larp about being traditional while not thinking about the depth of which is the faith in Christ. Just like the pope the patriarchs engage in heretical "interfaith dialogues". The orthodox church was historically used by the state to brainwash people into becoming their "warriors" and that still happens, just look at modern russia and ukraine. The orthodox church has the pharisee mindset of that "if you don't do that tradition you won't be saved", i saw it many times and that disgusts me. I don't have to say anything about the catholic church cause the situation is similar and i already made a thread about them.
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I was raised presbyterian and...yeah...i mean it was a lot better than being catholic or something but there was still a great deal of larping it felt like

at the end of the day you kind of have to just decide for yourself who is legitimately spiritual and who is larping

I would put more trust in the christians on this forum than the people high up in the church hierarchies
 
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