Politics Ethics and the degeneration of language in politics

AR47

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If you were to ask a leftist or a shitlib about which ethical system they believe in, utilitarianism/consequentialism or virtue ethics, then (I think) they would answer utilitarianism/consequentialism.

But their words and actions contradict this. For example in many discussions there are topics brought up such as 'is this equal?', 'what about freedom though?' or 'that's undemocratic (brought up in discussions with nothing to do with the state).'.

This is virtue ethics. I.e. 'democracy', 'equality' or 'freedom' are intrinsically good i.e. they are virtues. In a purely utilitarian analysis these things have no inherent value, but are a means to an end, and thus the previous example statements would be silly.

This has led to me hearing some very silly/absurd things when discussing with people.

And these aren't even good virtues. Things like justice, wisdom and love are virtues because they are always good. And they are intrinsically good, regardless of the consequences. However democracy, equality and freedom are not virtues, because they are good sometimes and bad other times. They are just a means to an end.

But this is kind of an understandable mistake. As virtue ethics is the natural, and also correct, ethical system for humans. I don't blame them for mixing things up, though I will correct them if it is appropriate.

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My favorite example of this is libtards calling anyone they don’t like a fascist or Nazi. It’s the perfect way for them to demonize their enemies because most people view Nazis as the ultimate evil, so any claim like that is bound to have other people instantly question the accused.
 
My favorite example of this is libtards calling anyone they don’t like a fascist or Nazi. It’s the perfect way for them to demonize their enemies because most people view Nazis as the ultimate evil, so any claim like that is bound to have other people instantly question the accused.
This is so true and it betrays their true character in full. They will call others horrible people for being "racist" or "sexist" or "homophobic" or any of the other, saying it's dehumanizing. And in the same breath they dehumanize you. I can see human dignity and the image of God in everyone, even the most horrible, but these people don't. They don't believe that all humans are made in the image of God, thus if you disagree with their utopian worldview, you are an ontological enemy of the human race and there is no act against you that is unjustified. This shows in how malicious they are in regards to anyone and everyone not completely aligned with them. They are like vicious animals, to them you're either one of their own or an enemy to be trampled and they don't see that as morally bankrupt at all.
 
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